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Your SAT and ACT test scores may matter more than just in admissions

As more and more colleges go test optional, we see even a great emphasis from the students on test preparation. While the SAT was originally concieved as a scholarship talent search to identify students who could be superstars but did not come from the typical background of the day, it morphed into the defacto entrance test for many colleges (along with the ACT). Many of us have told students that the test score does not matter beyond admissions. No employer will ever care. Sure, ever so often stories appeared about famous people’s test scores.

Celebrity

SAT Score (out of 1600)

College Attended

Paul Allen 1600 Washington State University
Will Smith Rumored to be perfect None
Ben Affleck Almost perfect Occidental College, University of Vermont
Bill Gates 1590 Harvard
Ben Bernanke 1590 Harvard
Bill O’Reilly 1585 Marist College
Ryan Fitzpatrick 1580 Harvard
James Woods 1579 MIT
Ben Stein 1573 Columbia
Kesha 1500 None
Scott McNealy 1420 Stanford
Natalie Portman 1400+ Harvard
Al Gore 1355 Harvard
Stephen King 1300s University of Maine
Meredith Vieira 1300s Tufts University
George W. Bush 1206 Yale
Derek Jeter 1200 University of Michigan
John Kerry 1190 Yale
Courtney Cox 1150 Mount Vernon College
Amy Tan 1100s Linfield College, San José State University
Kobe Bryant 1080 None
Scarlett Johansson 1080 None
Bill Clinton 1032 Georgetown
Peyton Manning 1030 University of Tennessee
Alex Rodriguez 910 None

It did not matter that some of these scores are impossible, like James Woods 1579, this was just for entertainment. But the SAT did not really matter after colllege. Only now, a start up will factor your SAT/ACT score when it loans you money. Upstart sees value in your test score along with what college you went to and your history of employment. So would Bill Clinton with his impossible 1032 get a loan at favorable rates? Of course Bill should probably avoid borrowing money with his better half running for President. 

 

Upstart is hot, according to Business Insider: “It’s issued more than 8,700 loans worth a total of $125 million in the past year, with about $20 million coming in June alone. Considering it targets millennials between the ages of 22 and 34, and most loans are below $35,000, it’s not a bad growth rate.” 

Update: A Florida law in the the making will reward teachers for their SAT scores. 

What it costs to study where…

According to an infographic created by Forbes based on student fess (this excludes tuition)

The information is culled from a report by the bank HSBC. I cannot find anything more recent than September, 2014. The more interesting document I found has to do with parent ambitions, which was just released froma survey of over 5000 parents in 16 countries. Some key insights:

Colleges That Require the PROFILE Financial Aid Application

The Folks at DIY College Rankings have a useful list of colleges that reuqire the CSS Profile when appling for financial aid. 

Colleges That Require the PROFILE Financial Aid Application
(Download PDF version)

Colleges with binding early decision plans

Thanks to Cigus Vanni, counselor at Cherry Hill HS West (NJ/USA) for the annual update:

COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES IN THE UNITED STATES WITH BINDING EARLY DECISION ADMISSION PLANS

 [last modified July 23, 2015 at 1:15 PM]

ARIZONA

            Prescott College

 

CALIFORNIA

         Biola University [also supports an ED II plan and an Early Action plan]

         California Polytechnic State University at San Luis Obispo

            Claremont McKenna College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Harvey Mudd College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Occidental College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Pitzer College

            Pomona College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Santa Clara University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Scripps College [also supports an ED II plan]

            University of San Francisco [also supports an Early Action plan]

 

COLORADO

         Colorado College [also supports an ED II plan and an Early Action plan]

 

CONNECTICUT

         Connecticut College [also supports an ED II plan]

         Fairfield University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Mitchell College

            Quinnipiac University

            Sacred Heart University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Trinity College [also supports an ED II plan]

            University of New Haven [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Wesleyan University [also supports an ED II plan]

 

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

            American University [also supports an ED II plan]

            George Washington University [also supports an ED II plan]

 

FLORIDA

         Flagler College

            Florida Southern College

            Rollins College [also supports an ED II plan]

            University of Miami [also supports an Early Action plan]

 

GEORGIA

         Agnes Scott College [also supports an Early Action plan]

Emory University [also supports an ED II plan]

            Georgia Southwestern State University

            Morehouse College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Oxford College of Emory University [also supports an ED II plan]

            Spelman College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Wesleyan College [also supports an ED II plan]

           

ILLINOIS

            Lake Forest College [also supports an Early Action plan and an ED II plan]

Moody Bible Institute

            Northwestern University

            Saint Francis Medical Center College of Nursing

            Trinity College of Nursing and Health Sciences

 

INDIANA

            DePauw University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Earlham College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Saint Mary’s College

            Wabash College [also supports an Early Action plan]

 

IOWA

            Cornell College [also supports an ED II plan and an Early Action plan]

            Grinnell College [also supports an ED II plan]

 

KENTUCKY

            Centre College [also supports an ED II plan and an Early Action plan]

            Georgetown College [also supports an Early Action plan]

 

MAINE

         Bates College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Bowdoin College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Colby College [also supports an ED II plan]

            College of the Atlantic [also supports an ED II plan]

            Maine Maritime Academy [also supports an Early Action plan]

 

MARYLAND

         Goucher College [also supports an Early Action plan and an ED II plan]

            Johns Hopkins University

            Maryland Institute College of Art

Saint Mary’s College of Maryland [also supports an ED II plan]

Salisbury University [also supports an ED II plan and an Early Action plan]

University of Baltimore

            Washington College [also supports an Early Action plan and an ED II plan]

 

MASSACHUSETTS

         Amherst College

            Babson College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Bentley University

            Boston University

            Brandeis University [also supports an ED II plan]

            Clark University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            College of the Holy Cross

            Gordon College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Hampshire College [also supports an Early Acton plan and an ED II plan]

            Merrimack College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Mount Holyoke College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Northeastern University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Smith College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Springfield College

            Stonehill College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Tufts University [also supports an ED II plan]

            Wellesley College

            Wheaton College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Williams College

 

MICHIGAN

         Hillsdale College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Kalamazoo College [also supports an Early Action plan and an ED II plan]

 

MINNESOTA

         Carleton College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Hamline University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Macalester College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Saint Olaf College [also supports an ED II plan]

 

MISSISSIPPI

            Mississippi College

 

MISSOURI

         Cox College

         Stephens College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Washington University in Saint Louis

 

NEBRASKA

            Nebraska Wesleyan University

 

NEW HAMPSHIRE

         Dartmouth College

 

NEW JERSEY

            Drew University [also supports an ED II plan]

            Ramapo College of New Jersey

            Stevens Institute of Technology [also supports an ED II plan]

            The College of New Jersey

 

NEW YORK

         Albany College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences

            Alfred University

            Barnard College

            Clarkson University

            Colgate University [also supports an ED II plan]

            College of New Rochelle

            Columbia University

            Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art

            Cornell University

            Elmira College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Eugene Lang College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Five Towns College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Hamilton College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Hartwick College

            Hobart and William Smith Colleges [also supports an ED II plan]

            Ithaca College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Jewish Theological Seminary of America [also supports an ED II plan]

            Manhattan College

            Maria College

            Marist College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Nazareth College [also supports an ED II plan]

            New York University [also supports an ED II plan]

            Polytechnic Institute of New York University

            Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute [also supports an ED II plan]

            Rochester Institute of Technology

            Saint John Fisher College

            Saint Lawrence University [also supports an ED II plan]

            Sarah Lawrence College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Siena College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Skidmore College [also supports an ED II plan]

            State University of New York (SUNY) College at Buffalo

            SUNY College at Fredonia

            SUNY College at Geneseo

            SUNY College at Old Westbury

            SUNY College at Oswego

            SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry

            SUNY Maritime College

            SUNY University at Buffalo

            Syracuse University

            Union College [also supports an ED II plan]

            University of Rochester

            Vassar College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Wagner College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Webb Institute of Naval Architecture

            Wells College [also supports an Early Action plan]

 

NORTH CAROLINA

            Davidson College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Duke University

         Elon University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            High Point University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Meredith College

            Piedmont International University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Wake Forest University

            Warren Wilson College [also supports an Early Action plan]

 

OHIO

            Case Western Reserve University [also supports an Early Action plan and an ED II plan]

            Cincinnati College of Mortuary Science

            College of Wooster [also supports an Early Action plan and an ED II plan]

            Denison University [also supports an ED II plan]

            Kenyon College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Miami University of Ohio [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Oberlin College and Conservatory [also supports an ED II plan]

            Ohio Wesleyan University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Wittenberg University [also supports an Early Action plan]

 

OREGON

         Lewis and Clark College [also supports an Early Action plan]

         Reed College [also supports an ED II plan]

 

PENNSYLVANIA

         Allegheny College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Bryn Mawr College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Bucknell University [also supports an ED II plan]

            Carnegie Mellon University [also supports an ED II plan]

         Dickinson College [also supports an ED II plan and an Early Action plan]

Duquesne University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Franklin and Marshall College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Gettysburg College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Grove City College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Haverford College

            Juniata College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Lafayette College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Lebanon Valley College

            Lehigh University [also supports an ED II plan]

            Moravian College

            Muhlenberg College

            Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts

            Susquehanna University [also supports a restrictive Early Action plan]

            Swarthmore College [also supports an ED II plan]

            University of Pennsylvania

            Ursinus College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Washington and Jefferson College [also supports an Early Action plan]

 

PUERTO RICO

         University of Puerto Rico at Arecibo

 

RHODE ISLAND

         Brown University

Bryant University [also supports an ED II plan and an Early Action plan]

Providence College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Rhode Island School of Design

 

SOUTH CAROLINA

            Furman University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Presbyterian College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Wofford College [also supports an Early Action plan]

           

TENNESSEE

 

            Rhodes College [also supports an ED II plan and an Early Action plan]

            University of The South [also supports an ED II plan and an Early Action plan]

            Vanderbilt University [also supports an ED II plan]

 

TEXAS

         Rice University

            Southern Methodist University [also supports an Early Action plan and an ED II plan]

            Texas Christian University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Trinity University [also supports an ED II plan and an Early Action plan]

           

VERMONT

         Bennington College [also supports an Early Action plan and an ED II plan]

            Champlain College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Marlboro College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Middlebury College [also supports an ED II plan]

            Sterling College [also supports an Early Action plan]

 

VIRGINIA

            Christopher Newport University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            College of William and Mary

            Hampden-Sydney College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Hollins University [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Lynchburg College

            Roanoke College

            University of Richmond [also supports an ED II plan]

            Virginia Military Institute

            Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University (Virginia Tech)

            Washington and Lee University [also supports an ED II plan]

           

WASHINGTON

         University of Puget Sound [also supports an ED II plan]

            Whitman College [also supports an ED II plan]

 

WISCONSIN

            Beloit College [also supports an Early Action plan]

            Lawrence University [also supports an Early Action plan] 

            This list was compiled by Cigus Vanni, longtime member of the New Jersey Association for College Admission Counseling Executive Board and former member of the NACAC Professional Development Committee (2007-2010).  Sources consulted included The College Handbook, 2016 by the College Board; individual college websites; the College Board Common Data Set; and various college admissions offices by telephone.  As is the case with all aspects of college admission, use lists as guides and be certain to double check with individual admissions offices

           

 

 

OACAC changes the name

Overseas Association of College Admissions Counseling, better known as OACAC changed its name this week to

International Association of College Admissions Counseling

Short form: International ACAC –This goes into effect January 1, 2016

A much needed change, but will it resonate as strong as OACAC:

Still looking for a home?

Still looking for a home?

Hundereds of universities and colleges are still accepting students: Check out NACAC’s space availability website. This list includes places in the UK, Canada, Australia as well as the USA. The Universal Application also hosts a page with openings. 

 

- See more at: http://www.internationalcounselor.org/still-looking-for-a-home#sthash.NtZoj1YZ.dpuf

What Engineering in Canada have agreements in the US?

Short answer: Most. 

Long answer? Click here for a complete listing. 

Inside the admission office with Daniel Grayson

Daniel Grayson, truly one of the greats in college admissions, has taken a sebatical from his work at Tufts. While travelling he managed to give this great webinar on the College admission Essay. 

This follows on his superb “How to think like an admissions officer” series he did for the Hong Kong Education USA:

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Part 6

Bollocks! On worthless careers instead of idealist ones.

“I think it’s a very blunt and inappropriate means [of comparison], that rings alarm bells in my mind.” So laments the head of Career services at Cambridge on the fact that the UK government requires all Universites to provide data on salaries of graduates, a task the US government is moving to require. Forget that PAYSCALE already ranks colleges based on self reported salaries. Guess what? Engineers earn a lot more money than most other majors. 
    
The piece is well worht the read even with its full on asault of judgements about people who choose high paying careers. 

Common app abandons Holistic admissions?

I put a question mark as a courtesy, because the process started when they got rid of the short answer to what activity is most important to you and why. The Common App has succumbed to market pressures (we are looking at you universal app) and seeks to own every application (like those Canadians and Australians) as it quietly unveiled some astonishing changes that do not even get mentioned on their facebook page. In fact, these changes are not even on their blog. Amazingly, I did not learn of these changes by the official counselor newsletter, but from  Nancy Griesemer column (an early version attributed the article to Valerie Strauss–sorry, Nancy). In fairness, the Common App dropped holistic admissions from their mission statement last fall. Now it reads:

“The Common Application is a not-for-profit member organization committed to the pursuit of access, equity, and integrity in the college application process.”

 

So, the new improved  common app (which reminds of a new improved coke) now further builds on abandoning holistic review by

1) Not requiring an essay. Yep, colleges will have the option of not having a writing sample. This will be happy news for Canadians and Australians who found they could figure out qualified students without any writing sample. Besides, who wants to read ghost written essays anyways? No word on who will drop the writing requirements. Looks like they still have not solved the problem of what are the supplementary  essays for each colleges. 

2) Not requiring any recommendations. Presently, colleges had to have at least one reference–either teacher or counselor–but now just the student’s name and credit card information is sufficient to apply. Maybe the SAT or ACT. Maybe not. I guess they still require a transcript, unless you don’t

Most college discussion board focused on the changes to the essay prompts, but these are minor compared with the complete about face on holistic admissions. The Common App claims I have it wrong: “We understand that many institutions practice holistic review and selection in various ways.  By moving away from the very prescribed definition, we support our Members in evaluating applicants through the admissions process that works best for them – be it a resume, a video essay, an interview, or other as yet untapped approaches,” said Eric J. Furda, Board of Directors Chair and Dean of Admissions at the University of Pennsylvania. But, no essay, no references, no reflection on the reason behind an activity is the opposite of holistic. Students are reduced to GPA and test scores…and of course income if they do not apply for financial aid. 

The other note of worth, especially if you work for a college, is the change in pricing plans, removing the incentive for exclusivity. 

For students, they fixed the silly print preview function. And they now allow students to revise their now optional essay as many times as they wish.